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  Why FAITH is actually a form of suicide

  by Terry in

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  i once heard a psychiatrist explain suicide as the ultimate act of self-preservation.

  sound weird?.

  counter-intuitive as that sounds, he went on to explain why.. when all you value in life is threatened you do whatever desperate act that will preserve that value.. destruction of self stops the ......process.....of consciously losing.

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  Terry - frankly???? - your talking trasho man.

  psacramento said -

  I have faith in my doctor when he writes me a prescription for my kids.

  I have faith in my welders when they weld a job and I am not on top opf them "24/7".

  I have faith in my wifes driving skills when she takes the kids for a drive.

  Etc, etc.

  Then terry you come back with -

  Nice try!

  Substitute the word "confidence" for the word "faith" and you've got it accurate.

  We can all "change the words around" to suit our argument. Is it confidence or is it faith. Personally I think faith is more appropriate. Condidence does not seem to do some of the many examples I could produce any justice.

  I have faith that when I breath, air will go in my lungs - or is that confidence - or is it just belief? Ah - its all to do with our personal definition of words and - most importantly - our starting point. If we are angling at trashing FAITH we will never admit to the word having any real meaning in day to day living.

  FAITH can only apply to the unseen and the unprovable

  I see God every day - in the world around me - so "from my perspective" or "my starting point" - I have Faith in something I CAN see and something I CAN prove.

  My faith in God is far from blind.
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  Another teenage JW refuses blood and dies.

  by The Scotsman in

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  it's yet another tragic loss of life that may have been prevented if he had accepted blood.. http://news.sky.com/skynews/home/uk-news/jehovahs-witness-teenager-refuses-blood-transfusion-joshua-mcauley-dies-from-car-crash-injuries/article/201005315634231?lpos=uk_news_third_home_page_article_teaser_region__2&lid=article_15634231_jehovahs_witness_teenager_refuses_blood_transfusion%3a_joshua_mcauley_dies_from_car_crash_injuries.

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  Sorry folks - did not realise this had been posted already.
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  Another teenage JW refuses blood and dies.

  by The Scotsman in

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  it's yet another tragic loss of life that may have been prevented if he had accepted blood.. http://news.sky.com/skynews/home/uk-news/jehovahs-witness-teenager-refuses-blood-transfusion-joshua-mcauley-dies-from-car-crash-injuries/article/201005315634231?lpos=uk_news_third_home_page_article_teaser_region__2&lid=article_15634231_jehovahs_witness_teenager_refuses_blood_transfusion%3a_joshua_mcauley_dies_from_car_crash_injuries.

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  It's yet another tragic loss of life that may have been prevented if he had accepted blood.

  http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Jehovahs-Witness-Teenager-Refuses-Blood-Transfusion-Joshua-McAuley-Dies-From-Car-Crash-Injuries/Article/201005315634231?lpos=UK_News_Third_Home_Page_Article_Teaser_Region__2&lid=ARTICLE_15634231_Jehovahs_Witness_Teenager_Refuses_Blood_Transfusion%3A_Joshua_McAuley_Dies_From_Car_Crash_Injuries
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  Clegg endorses Cameron

  by cantleave in

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  nothing official but the indication is he's holding the olive branch out to the tories..

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  Their is absolutely no chance of a Conservative/LibDem coalition working.

  They are miles apart on policy - if they do a deal it will lead to another election before the end of the year.

  The tories have been rejected quite comprehensively in Scotland and Wales - both these areas are labour strong holds. How can the tories say they have a "stable government for all" in such circumstances.

  Also - read Nick Clegg's words very carefully - he says the tories should have first attempt at forming a government - that does not mean a deal will be done.

  Whatever happens - Gordon brown is finished. If their is indeed a second election Labour will have a new leader.
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  How dangers is field service really, has anyone ever heard of someone being hurt or killed while doing some form of witnessing

  by life is to short in

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  ok my other thread was not totally what i was after.

  after thinking it through i was wondering if any of you have ever heard of someone being hurt by a householder in field service.. .

  like i mentioned in my latest thread about the sister who was murdered and then her death was blamed on her.. i know in the hall i grew up in there were many sex offenders living in the area.

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  I knew of a brother who had a shotgun pointed into his face.

  But the Bro was a bit of a cool dude and just pushed the barrel of the gun to the side and said "I am here on a mission of peace"!

  The only other example I can think of was a sister getting a buchet of water thrown over her.
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  Making the leap - lurker to member - Hello!

  by Hadit in

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  ive been lurking here for the past couple of months since i started researching the organization.

  i dont have many people to talk to and its been a saving grace to read your posts.. i dont really know where to start so here i go.

  its been a long journey getting here and it looks as if i still have a long ways to go to get somewhere healthy, stable and strong.

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  Welcome hadit.

  Your right - its a long journey which can be painful at times.

  But we are all living proof that their is indeed life after Watchtower.

  It will be worth it in the end.

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  I thought fading was going to be easy.

  by EmptyInside in

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  I can relate.

  I went through the exact same process - it was terrible.

  My original plan was to back off from meetings gradually but keep some contact for my wifes sake - but that plan went out the window - once my mind had been opened the dros coming from the platform just made me angry and agitated.

  Fortunately my wife opened her mind as well so we both stopped attending - moving house helped a lot!

  But for those months I was attending the meetings - goodness gracious it was murder!
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  Do you still pray? Why?

  by gubberningbody in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk6ilzaaami.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uazdcs-rmf4.

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  I pray every day.

  Why? Well despite the WTBTS experience I still believe in God and I think he would want us to talk to him.

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  Hmm this could be tricky - I am going to a JW wedding.

  by The Scotsman in

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  yes a close family member of mine is getting married next weekend and me and mrs scotsman have been invited.. to set the scene - i have not been to a meeting in 2 years, 2 months and for mrs scotsman it is just under 2 years - so we have not seen any of our ex jw associates since then - but they will all be at the wedding!!!!.

  we are not dad or dfd so they will be able to talk to us if they feel the urge.. the good thing is we are not the only ex jws/non jws going, so this will help.. the worry i have is what some of these jws might try.

  for many of them, the last time they seen me i was an elder flying the wt flag - now i am out the truth dead at armageddon!.

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  Let them see how much your life has changed for the better.

  For us this is the key I think.

  Rather than getting into doctrinal/belief discussions - just showing that we left and survived, in fact are happier now is the most powerful message we can send I think.

  I am fairly certain that a "doctrinal" conversation would end up in bigger problems for us.

  Some of the Elders/MSs going are total "company men" and would walk over their own mothers for the WTBTS - so I need to be careful.
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  Hmm this could be tricky - I am going to a JW wedding.

  by The Scotsman in

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  yes a close family member of mine is getting married next weekend and me and mrs scotsman have been invited.. to set the scene - i have not been to a meeting in 2 years, 2 months and for mrs scotsman it is just under 2 years - so we have not seen any of our ex jw associates since then - but they will all be at the wedding!!!!.

  we are not dad or dfd so they will be able to talk to us if they feel the urge.. the good thing is we are not the only ex jws/non jws going, so this will help.. the worry i have is what some of these jws might try.

  for many of them, the last time they seen me i was an elder flying the wt flag - now i am out the truth dead at armageddon!.

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  with almost tears in there eyes they say "I miss you"

  I have thought of this and I was going to say if they missed me so much why did they not call! - To direct perhaps???